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Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.28 22:32:00 -
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Fabulous Rod wrote:
yes, and no word on SP reimbursement.
...and no word on Drone Link Augmentor II as well. Maybe there is a new skill that is required for that and gain some benefit from that. But without any official answer it's some kind of guesswork either to stop the skilling if you have one of the 2 skills already at V in hope to don't waste skill-time or not because Drone Link Augmentor II is still not mentioned. |
Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.28 23:05:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:
no, because you're getting the extra 5% damage to your drones.
That would mean that the Combat Drones skill remains and still contains Drone Link Augmentor II? But if that is the case is it affecting either light and medium drones with 5% damage?
So far there is some confusing dev-blog that still says Combat Drones would split up (which seems to be fully wrong). Now it's told here that Scout drones is going to be renamed to Drone Avionics ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4648326#post4648326 ) and regarding Light and Medium drones it was mentioned earlier that it does not make a difference if you skill Scout or Combat Drones to V (as written here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4431589#post4431589).
If Combat Drones remain it sounds good to me and there is no waste of time to skill it if you already have Scout Drones to V. If not it seems still a waste of skill time and the dev-blog is still misleading. |
Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 00:50:00 -
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Loraine Gess wrote:
You are not losing anything.
You are loosing skilltime now if you skill Combat Drones to V if you already got Scout Drones to V earlier if the skill Combat Drones is getting removed via the split. If not everything is good.
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What, exactly, is the problem?
The problem is that there is no confirmation that the Combat Drones skill still remains after the patch and that there are some infos at the dev-blog (that seems more or less wrong) and some other infos spread in various threads and busybody that still waste others time via linking to dev-blog or other stuff...
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Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 01:46:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Shall we reimburse them as well?
Who is we? Are you talking for CCP? If you read the previous post of Hyuni you might see that there are still people affected by that issue right now. |
Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 07:09:00 -
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Destoya wrote:It's pretty amazing to me how many people completely misunderstood (and continue to misunderstand) the process of splitting the drone skills.
It's the dev-blogs fault. There are guys that trained both skills to V in the past (and used both skills in the past) that could savely ignore that (and seems to feel free for became busybody now). There was guys that trained Scout to V and was going to train Combat to V now. It seems that one wasted skilltime because they was already done with Scout drone at V and get trolled by the dev-blog. And there are guys (like me) that are still confused what to do. Combat Drones V is in my skillqueue because I still did not get an answer what happens to the Drone Link Augmentor II. If Scout Drones is getting renamed it does not look right to me that it includes the Drone Link Augmentor II. And even if Combat Drones becomes Medium Drones it sounds wrong. So are there just that 2 skills we are talking about? Which skills includes Drone Link Augmentor II in future? If those who only skilled Scout Drones to V are not able to use it after the update then those who skilled it right now just because of the dev-blog really did not waste skill-time. |
Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 07:23:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:
'We' as in the collective EVE community, including the devs. Used it as a general term more than anything else. Don't read so much into it.
In that case stop talking for me. :P
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Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 07:24:00 -
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Domanique Altares wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Domanique Altares wrote:DLA II requires Drone Avionics V. I guarantee you it won't. I guarantee you it does. Right now.
...based on what? I still search the answer for that question. |
Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 07:38:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
Based on the current Kronos build.
Could make sense. Do you know if that Drone Avionics V is required to use Tech II drones on the current Kronos build as well? Because if I get that skill to V via my Scout Drones skill I could save some days of training right now and stop trainig Combat Drones to V as well.
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Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 07:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:
Drone Avionics controls bonuses and modules that have to do with drone control range.
If I don't need that skill for Tech II light and medium drones at V I don't understand why somebody should get it automatically at V via the update from the Scout Drone skill? Anyway I started training Scout Drones to V on my toon now ... sounds like I could not go wrong with that. I'm still unsure what to do on my main (and I'm not alone with that) regarding canceling Combat Drones skill.
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Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 08:21:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Tronity Neutronux wrote:If I don't need that skill for Tech II light and medium drones at V I don't understand why somebody should get it automatically at V via the update from the Scout Drone skill? Because it's the skill you've trained to V. If you have trained SDO V, you have unlocked: GÇó T2 light drones. GÇó T2 medium drones. GÇó A 25km drone control range. They don't want you to lose any of those, so you're being given: GÇó The ability to use T2 light drones (LDO V). GÇó The ability to use T2 medium drones (MDO V). GÇó A 25km drone control range (DAv V). If you have trained CDO V, you have unlocked: GÇó +25% damage to light drones. GÇó +25% damage to medium drones. They don't want you to lose those bonuses either, so you're being given: GÇó +25% damage to light drones (LDO V). GÇó +25% damage to medium drones (MDO V). Basically, the entire change is to fix the entirely illogical cross-skill bonusing and unlocking that the current drone skills offer. Right now, the drone skills are such that, if the turret skills worked the same, you would have to train Long-range Targeting V in order to use T2 light blaster GÇö the two have absolutely nothing to do with each other. All of that silliness is being removed: bonusing skills and unlocking skills become one and the same.
The point with the 25km drone range makes sense in my opinion, thanks. So I would stop skilling Combat Drones to V on my main now and I'm trying to compensate a bit of that waste of that double-skilltime via my toon.
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Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 10:05:00 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:why would CCP reimburse SP if you didn't lose any and infact gain more? 
It feels a bit nasty because the dev-blog mislead you to do something dumb. If you had (the pretty easy skilled) Scout Drones already at V it seems you get a gift if you don't skill Combat Drones any further. If you read the dev-blog and skilled Combat Drones to avoid some huge skilltime multiplikation (like in the past with Destroyer or Battle-Cruiser) you did not save but wasted skilltime because the gift after the update is doing the same for you (so you might feel bad now). Anyway I think it's ok without refund and if you have some fresh toon (like me) you could still take advantage from the update. |
Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 10:16:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:
So those who play the system lose out and those of us who either have the skills we need or are still skilling dont?
If you are still skilling Combat Drones you "loose" because you could get it for free after the update (means you are wasting your time via doing something twice). But since it's more like a gift for those who don't skill than a real lose (for those who get it the hard way) nobody steal something from you. That's the reason why I think it's not smart but ok. The only remaining problem I see is the dev-blog that caused that issue (and for sure lot of corp-mails that gave some wrong hints).
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Tronity Neutronux
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Posted - 2014.05.29 18:05:00 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:
nobody mislead you in doing something dumb.
Well... thx for clearing that up. Why didn't you tell us this before. Oh wait you did?
There is a Dev-Blog? Really?
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well buddy, you lost, they changed it and there's nothing you can do about it, sorry.
No need to apologize. I did not loose SP and could still take advantage from it. Others might still trust the Dev-blog and don't loose something either but waste some time. Since you don't have some serious new content in a thread that looks pretty finished, well... it seems many that write here does not have that much to tell but search for some tears. As I wrote already I think it's not smart but ok and you could still take advantage from it right now. But if it helps you to sleep better: :*( |
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